Learning a language involves a variety of skills, and so does learning math. Some skills are apparently needed for both, but others are distinct.

Learning languages and learning math

Some years ago I sat in on a second year college Spanish class. Most of the other students were ages 18-24. The students showed a wide spectrum of ability.

• Some were quite fluent and conversed easily. Others struggled to put a sentence together.
• Some had trouble with basic grammar, for example adjective-noun agreement (number and gender). I would not have thought second year students would do that. Some also had trouble with verbs. Spanish verbs are generally difficult, but second year students shouldn’t have trouble with using “canta” with singular subjects and “cantan” with plural ones.
• Some had trouble reading aloud, stumbling over pronunciation, such putting the accent in the right place in real time and pronouncing some letters correctly (“ll”, “e”, intervocalic “s”). The rules for accent and pronouncing letters are very easy in Spanish, and I was surprised that second year students would have difficulty with them. But the speech of most of them sounded good to me.

I can read Spanish pretty well, but have had very little practice speaking or writing it. I comprehend some of what they say on Univision (soap operas are particularly easy, but I still miss more than half of it), but then I am hard of hearing. I used to have a reasonable ability to speak and understand street German; judging from experience I think it would come back rapidly if we went to live in a German-speaking city again. I can easily read math papers written in Spanish or in German, but I couldn’t come close to giving a math lecture in either language.

Some find learning rules of pronunciation that are different from English very hard, like the Spanish students I mentioned above. I know that some people can’t keep “ei” and “ie” straight in German, and some Russian students find it hard to get used to the Cyrillic alphabet. I find that part of language learning easy. I also find learning grammar and using it in real time fairly easy. I have more difficulty remembering vocabulary.

Learning the new sounds of a language is an entirely different problem from learning the rules of pronunciation.

Mathematical ability

Some difficulties that students have with the symbolic language of math [1] are probably the same kind of difficulties that language students have with learning another language.

When I have taught elementary logic, I usually have a scattering of students who can’t keep the symbols and separate. (See Note [a].) Some even have the same trouble with intersection and union of sets. This is sort of like differentiating “ie” and “ei” in German, except that the latter distinction runs into cognitive dissonance [2] caused by the usual English pronunciation.

Of course, both language students and math students have immense problems with cognitive dissonance in areas other than symbol-learning. For example, many technical words in math have meanings different from ordinary English usage, such as “if”, “group”, and “category”. Language students have difficulties with “false friends” such as “Gift”, which is the German word for “poison”, and very common words such as prepositions, which can have several different translations into English depending on context — and many prepositions in other European languages look like English prepositions. (Note [b]).

On the other hand, some types of mathematical learning seem to involve problems language students don’t run into.

Substitution, for example, appears to me to cause conceptual difficulties that are not like anything in learning language. But I would like to hear examples to the contrary.

If , then . Is there anything like this in natural languages? And simplifying this to is not like anything in natural language either — is it?

Is there anything in learning natural languages that is like thinking of an element of a set? Or like the two-level quantification involved in understanding the definition of continuity?

Is there anything in learning math that involves the same kind of difficulty as learning to pronounce a new sound in another language? (Well, making a speech sound involves moving parts of your mouth in three dimensions, and some people find visualizing 3D shapes difficult. But that seems like a stretch to me).

A proposal for investigation

Students show a wide variety of conceptual skills. Some skills seem to be required both in learning mathematics and in learning a foreign language. Others are different. Also, there is a difference between learning school math and learning abstract math at the college level (Note [c]).

TOPIC FOR RESEARCH

• Identify the types of concept formation that learning a foreign language and learning math have in common.
• Determine if “being good at languages” and “being good at mathematics” are correlated at the high school level.
• Ditto for college-level abstract math.

Undoubtedly math teachers and language teachers have written about certain specific issues of the sort I have discussed, but I think we need a systematic comparative investigation of skills involved in the tasks of learning languages and learning math.

I have made proposals for research concerning various other questions with math ed, particularly in connection with linguistics. I will install a new topic “Proposals for research” in my “List of categories” (on the left side of the screen under “Recent posts”) and mark this and other articles that contain such proposals.

Notes

[a]. That is why, in the mathematical reasoning sections of abmath, for example [3], I use the usual English wordings of mathematical assertions instead of systematically using logical symbolism. For many students, introducing symbols and then immediately using them to talk about the subtleties of meaning and usage puts a difficult burden on some of the students. (I do define the symbols in asides).

This may not be the right thing to do. If a student finds it hard to learn to use symbols easily and fluently, should they be studying math?

[b]. I once knew a teenage German who spoke pretty good English, but he could not bear to use the English possessive case. That’s because German young people (assuming I understand this correctly) hate to say things like “Das Auto meines Vaters” and instead say “Das Auto von meinem Vater”. Unfortunately this resulted in his saying in English “The car from my father”, “The girlfriend from my brother” and so on…

[c]. I have been concerned primarily with understanding the difficulties students have when starting to study abstract math after they have had calculus. I have seen many students ace calculus and flunk abstract algebra or logic. There is a wall to fall off of there. The only organization I know of concerned with this is RUME, although it is involved with college calculus as well as what comes after.

References

[1] The symbolic language of math.

[2] Cognitive dissonance.

[3] Conditional assertions.